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Topic: Dan J - Marina in "Out Where Buses..."Posted: 11 August 2006 at 5:21pm |
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Dan - is the marina where Sonny and Rico are walking with the ex cop Hank Weldon at the edge of the Venetian Causeway behind the Doubletree hotel - they leave a bar "booty " i think then are walking along by boats. Its just that I noticed it on your travel post -link to pictures #
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Posted: 12 August 2006 at 5:44am |
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First, I believe the travel post link you're refering to belongs to sredd
- I merely posted a reply within. But that's okay - Scott, Jeremy and I
were all there a few weeks ago! The three of us, I believe it is safe
to say, are agreed that this is the place where Hank, Crockett &
Tubbs have a walk & talk as they exit some club - as you mentioned
- named "Booty." I don't know if that was the real name of the place or
if that was Tugboat Annie's in disguise (RB will have to help us on
that one.). But what remains is yeah that was the marina behind the
Doubletree Hotel.
"Didn't use to be red" is refering to the circular, fan-like sculpture in the picture. The ep reference is "Cool Running" and the chase scene in the opening. After the "preliminary meet gone bad" a chase ensues. At various points in that chase the vehicles are seen crossing the Venetian Causeway bridge and along the side of the Miami Herald building. The vantage point of one of the film cameras as it follows the vehicles from the Venetian Causeway is from slightly behind this sculpture, which at the time was painted white, not red. You'll have to do some slo-mo and freeze-frame detective work to see this as it appears semi-clearly in maybe two or three frames as the vehicles leave the Venetian Causeway and speed across the north wall of the Miami Herald. |
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Posted: 12 August 2006 at 8:33am |
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The Ocean Club - Any ideas where this is? There appears to be a pool behind the restaurant. When the assassin runs out the door and gets shot by Sonny, you can see lots of green behind him, as though there is a golf course or lawn. The opening scene - This area must have change since the show was filmed. They pass by the Flambeau Apts. 1126 Ocean Dr., and then immediately after that is a white wall with cars parked behind it and in front of it. It looks like a blocked-off alleyway or parking lot. This looks totally different on satellite now. Also, the beach area looks different. Now there is a strip of vegetation in the beach which wasn't there before. The epic final driving scene - I got that covered like white on rice. I'll map it out in gory detail this weekend.
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Posted: 12 August 2006 at 8:59pm |
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OK, now for one of the best scenes in MV history. Strangely, the final driving scene takes place in Miami Beach. It always looked to me like the downtown Miami expressway system and Biscayne Boulevard. Here is the overview. It starts on MacArthur Causeway eastbound, just before it hits Miami Beach. Then they turn north on Alton Rd., then they go east on 8th St., then they turn south onto Washington Ave, go 3 blocks, then turn back west on 5th. The scene ends after they cross Meridian Ave. It does appear they took the scenic route to get to the house.
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Posted: 12 August 2006 at 9:04pm |
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It starts with them on MacArthur Causeway, as they go by the traffic light for the exit to Terminal Isle.
They drive up and down the final hill of MacArthur Causeway. Next, they take this exit ramp (driving by a clearly visible road sign that reads Alton Rd. North):
Small blooper: Next, they are shown driving on Alton Rd. proper BEFORE the ramp has fully merged with the road. After some more driving, they turn right from 8th St. eastbound to Washington Ave. southbound. As they turn, you can see a tall spire on top of a building a couple of blocks eastward. I have circled that on this picture. The building I marked with an "X" seems like it would be easily identifiable in person.
The camera follows them 3 blocks south on Washington, then they turn right onto 5th St. westbound. After two short blocks, they drive under an unclear roadsign that reads "Meridian". I have marked Meridian with an "M":
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Posted: 12 August 2006 at 9:28pm |
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Final comments: What a stunning scene! 1. Great choice of song (Dire Straits - "Brother In Arms"). Not only are the lyrics deeply meaningful to the episode (and somewhat foreshadow the ending), but the melancholy mood of the song is perfect 2. Engine revs were mixed in brilliantly. 3. The foggy effect on lights (brake lights, traffic lights, etc.) is a really nice touch. 4. The part where they turn right from 8th to Washington, go down 3 blocks on Washington, then turn right from Washington to 5th, then go 2 more blocks --- this was all one camera shot. This adds a lot, though I can't really put into words why. Somehow, it makes you feel like you're there. This is cinema at it's finest.
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Posted: 13 August 2006 at 10:20am |
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great detective work, airtommy!
DanJ: BTW, where is the Tugboat Annies you referred to above located? (AFAIK, there was more than outlet?). Tugboat Annies was the restaurant Crockett and Caitlin ate in "LIke a Hurricane". P.S. the Doubletree mentioned above is the Doubletree Grand Hotel at 1717 North Bayshore Drive at the western end of Venetian Cswy. |
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Posted: 13 August 2006 at 2:37pm |
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My memory is hazy as to the exact location of Tugboat Annie's. I know
that it was one of the businesses facing the bay at the base of the
building just north of the Miami Herald. This is the building pictured
in this thread's starting post, with the red sculpture (Originally
white) marking the main entrance. What I can't recall is the precise
location of Tugboat Annie's within this building.
I seem to recall that RB had a picture of Tugboat Annie's somewhere on his web site. I just went digging around over there but couldn't turn it up. RB, if you're reading this, can you help us out here? |
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Posted: 13 August 2006 at 3:35pm |
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Google says there is/was a Tugboat Annie's Restaurant in Dania (area of Red Tape final scene).
It wasn't RB. It was the first MV Convention. There is a picture of the closed down Tugboat Annie's on page 2 of their Miami tour. |
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Posted: 15 August 2006 at 6:10pm |
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seems to add up for marina in "Out where Buses " where Cand T talk to Weldon although you cant see any skyline from the shot when they walk out of Bootys - it is very dark and I know it is quite far away from Venetian but you see nothing?! in the distance
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Maybe I'm imagining things, but when the bad guys go to their table, around 24:16 it looks like one can see the ocean through the window. So perhaps the Ocean Club is indeed on the ocean? |
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I have been thinking that it is in the same area as the end of red tape. Dania pier. I was watching about a year or so ago and noticed a sign on the building of a cafe or something( i am at work and do not have the dvd or notes and can't remember the name) and a switchboard.com search at the time only turned up one hit which was in the park. The restaurant had river in the name. I have not gotten around to a further investigation but it is on my list |
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Posted: 13 May 2007 at 5:23am |
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Hank Weldon's pad |
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Posted: 13 May 2007 at 5:34am |
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anyone interested in the location of the doll house where accaro was walled up??
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Posted: 13 May 2007 at 6:22am |
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Posted: 13 May 2007 at 7:17am |
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One item that might not be in the script: Around 41:55, Hank calls from a payphone. There's a distinctive neon sign in the background. Anyone know where this is? Perhaps by the Doubletree marina where they filmed the earlier scene?
I just looked around, and my guess would be the Sonesta at 350 Ocean Drive. It seems to be in transition right now. How's this for a reasonable approximation of the buffet table Sonny runs on as he chases the hit man?
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Posted: 13 May 2007 at 7:22am |
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Hank Weldon lived just a few blocks away from Scotty Wheeler. Maybe it was something in the neighborhood water that was driving cops over the edge?
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