Season 3 vs Season 4?

Hey, I just started watching season 4, and was just curious about something.

Was Dick Wolf let go after season 3? cuz I don't remember seeing his name in the credits in season 4. And I've noticed that the episodes are getting way better,and less boring than in season 3. I loved certain episodes in season 3 (Shadow In The Dark,Walk Alone,Streetwise,Theresa,Red Tape,etc) But a lot of the episodes I found less interesting than those from seasons 1-2. I found there to be a fun element about the first 2 seasons, which I found is back in season 4. I think the addition of Dick Wolf was the start of making the show more serious,and less about fun. But after watching season 3 it kinda left a bad taste in my mouth, and was unsure about watching more episodes. The way they ended season 3 was completely boring.

However, I just watched The Big Thaw, and was laughing my ass off. What a great episode! It was classic vice at it's best. I didn't like Contempt Of Court much, but the next 3 episodes after it were pretty good.

I hadn't watched much vice lately cuz season 3, although it had some killer episodes, had lost some of the fun factor for me, but now after seeing these few episodes, I'm watching the show more now because it's recaptured my interest. Can't wait for season 5 now.






    

Well I thought I would like season 3 a lot better,and did for the most part, but it had too many filler episodes, which I found to be not very interesting at all. Seemed to be too serious,and not enough funny moments. I liked seasons 1-2 cuz it had balance. It had a good share of comedy,drama,action, etc but season 3 seemed to be all about drama,and not much of the other 2.

I just started season 4, so I could change my mind, but so far I've only seen 2 episodes that I didn't like much, which are Contempt Of Court and Missing Hours. And I heard that Cows Of October is a nasty episode too, but haven't seen it yet.

I'll see in the next few weeks though which season I prefer. As for right now though I'm leaning towards 4.
I'm finding that Crockett and Tubbs in season 4 look a lot better. Tubbs looks more rough with a beard, and Crockett looks more like a criminal with longer hair.
Season 3 they looked too clean cut.
    

yeah, maybe that's why I thought season 3 wasn't as good. It started off slow, but once it got a few episodes in, I was loving it, and then something happened and it was lacking in a couple episodes, then it picked up a bit, and then dropped the ball again at the end of the season. I thought Everybody's In Showbiz would have been a better finale than Heroes Of The Revolution, or whatever it was called. I found the finale boring.

Usually I like when an episode revolves around a different character, like the one where Gina had that girlfriend who got raped? I thought that was a really good episode, and sad how it ended. It had everything. But this just wasn't a good finale at all. I loved all the finales I've seen so far, but this one wasn't even worth mentioning. But since you say that Mirror Image is good,and so is Freefall, it gives me hope that it will get better.

So I've renewed my interest with season 4. I'm liking it so far. I still love season 3, but just the ups and downs drove me crazy. Good episode,bad episode. It takes a little getting used to.

..And for many vice fans he ruined the show! I don't agree with this. Michael Mann left the show, handing it off to Dick Wolf--so mann is to blame. But I gotta admit, i like SEASON 3 a lot. Season 5 was very good as well. SEASON 4? Dung in a bag for the most part.

Originally posted by Trip Is it me or does TRUDY's body go from average in the first two seasons, to straight up HOT from SEASON 3 - SEASON 5. MAN! GOOOOD GOD! She wears these tight clothes and really enjoys showing those curves...   "Are they still following us?!" CROCKETT "...Like a bad dream!"    TUBBS   CALDERON'S DEMISE (RETURN)

Trudy gets hotter and hotter each season.  See almost seems like a different person when you go back and watch S1.

Dick Wolf did assume command with some spotty episodes though--although there is some lame episodes in SEASON 2 as well. Mann was in command then.

Originally posted by McCarthy Trudy gets hotter and hotter each season.  See almost seems like a different person when you go back and watch S1.

Is Dick Wolf behind the entire S3 and S4? I've watched again some eps from S4 and couldn't find his name anywhere in the credits. From a certain point in S4 you read his name as co-executive producer, but before you have George Geiger instead...

And SEASON 5, sorry. He is a successful writer/televison producer and such, but I just don't think he has the mind of michael mann, nor the abilty or the craft. I think he did a good job, but not a great one. For let us vice fans be honest: With a show that had the quality of vice, there is no reason it should have only lasted five seasons. NYPD BLUE lasted for over ten seasons.