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Epsideo 49 - The Good Collar

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    Posted: 25 March 2007 at 7:58am
    
Diner Scene at 29:12

This occurs in the same lot where Trudy is tied up in a trailer at the end of "Smuggler's Blues".


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The OCB isn't visible in the scene, I just marked it for reference. The Bank of America Tower can be seen several times in the scene.

I thought this location was really odd, since I was pretty sure this lot was empty during the 1980s. Then I noticed something: Freeze your video at 30:27 and move forward frame by frame. Is that the top of the set we are seeing?   


    
    
    
    
    
    
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MATT5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 March 2007 at 5:34pm
That is really interesting - I looked into this location last Year and thought it odd too. I knew I could not locate a real diner in that area.

I googled imaged the teaser scene of this episode in a "Good Collar" Thread by here in Dec heres link or go to page 2 on this thread

The Opening Scene of "The Good Collar"as the opening credits roll .Crockett is clearly seen over the river from the back of the Convention Centre/Clarion/Hyatt Hotels on the bit of land opposite.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=MIAMI&ie=UTF8&t=k&om=1&z=19&ll=25.770359,-80.191489&spn=0.001138,0.002688

SAME Location as above but further to the right almost opposite the Hyatt Rear Courtyard ( The lights are The Hyatt's)



    
    
    
    
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28 minutes into this ep C&T take a drive. Here's the breakdown:

28:04 Testarossa heads south on Collins Avenue, at about 50th Street

28:09 Inside shot of Tubbs, too tight to tell where.
28:13 Inside shot of Crockett, too tight to tell where.

28:33 Crockett's car phone rings and he picks it up. We are now looking out his driver's side window.

28:35 We see La Paloma restaurant which is on Biscayne Boulevard and about 112th Street. We are looking east out of Crockett's car window and we are heading south on Biscayne.

28:39 We see a shops building which is at about 111th and Biscayne.

28:42 We see the Royal Court Villas which were at about about 110th and Biscayne (They were torn down recently.). At this point C&T and the Testarossa are in front of the Ukelele (Uke) Bar, which we cant's see because it is behind us on the west side of the road. If this were " No Exit" it would be a rainy night and Switek would be looking out of a window in the Uke bar, looking across the street at the Royal Court Villas.

28:45 The driving scene ends once again at Collins at around 50th Street, maybe a little further south than that.


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Drug house around 15:00 - house number is 227. This address would fit perfectly if it were next to the alley Collins Ct. or at the southern end of Miami Beach near 2nd/3rd St. I looked around but couldn't find anything. If it was there, it could easily have been replaced.

P.S. Nice rundown of the driving scene, nice view of La Paloma Restaurant on bird's eye.


    
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"The Count" is busted

Intersection of 11th Street & Ocean Court
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The key clue is at 44:18, when C&T and the limo both turn left. Behind them is Lummus Park. You will notice a straight walkway to the beach, and to the right of it is a pink box. I have circled that on the pic below:

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In the scene Airtommy just showed us above we also see the arched footbridge from the teaser of "Out Where The Buses Don't Run" which I believe does not exist any more. Cry

Here's a few scene recreation shots from the teaser where Crockett busts Archie, and the latino gang attempts to mark their turf (First is a MV screen capture, second is my recreation shot.):

    
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The above is Espaņola Way at Drexel Avenue. The area has been spruced up considerably and barely resembles the ghetto scene in the ep, but the buildings are the same so if ya excercise yer x-ray vision and look past all the new glitter and landscaping ya oughtta be able ta recognize da scene - and ya know dat!

I want so much to find the 227 drug house. Airtommy already tried to suss this out and I drove the area in search of, but I have not been able to find it. Rats! Angry

Keep this in mind: The Art Deco district's southern border is 6th street. The area south of that is not protected by the historic district regulations and is therefore open territory for - ugh - redevelopment. As such, if the 227 house is/was anywhere down in that area, it may be gone today. Cry

P.S. I'm also looking for the alley where Tubbs chases down and tackles the latino gang leader (Who, in what looks like an homage to a scene from "Brothers' Keeper," flashes his badge at Tubbs and identifies himself as a cop, saying, "Nice tackle.".). Here's a screen capture of the scene. The way it's cut one would think it's an alley behind Espaņola Way, but I have found no such place. Might this be the opposite end of the 227 drug house alley?


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Wow, the difference in the 2 above pics is amazing! Talk about urban renewal!
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Originally posted by airtommy


Drug house around 15:00 - house number is 227. This address would fit perfectly if it were next to the alley Collins Ct. or at the southern end of Miami Beach near 2nd/3rd St. I looked around but couldn't find anything. If it was there, it could easily have been replaced.

P.S. Nice rundown of the driving scene, nice view of La Paloma Restaurant on bird's eye.


    
can't believe you don't recognize this location  used in at least two other episodes. LOLLOLLOL even a martian knows the neighborhood hint hint Wink look at recent location trivia but if you go there be careful of the rapist who lives thereBig smile
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hey danj  if tubbs knew about the hot hot blond in the pizza place on the corner he would have gone there instead of down the alley Wink wow
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new paint job and windows  mattress is gone as well as the fire escape but otherwise same dirty alley way.  Had to wait for two guys to finish a real drug deal and get out of the way before I could snap this shot
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Sweet, Jeremy found it! It's the alleyway Collins Court just north of 1st Street. That's the same place where Eddie & Bobby were tossing the football at the beginning of "Red Tape".

Originally posted by DanJ

Might this be the opposite end of the 227 drug house alley?


Your instincts were correct! The drug house was 227 1st St, next door to the Nemo Hotel.

So, the alley around the corner from the 227 drug house was the same alley as in the teaser.


    
    
    
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Sweet, Jeremy found it! It's the alleyway Collins Court just north of 1st Street. That's the same place where Eddie & Bobby were tossing the football at the beginning of "Red Tape".

Originally posted by DanJ

Might this be the opposite end of the 227 drug house alley?


Your instincts were correct! The drug house was 227 1st St, next door to the Nemo Hotel.

So, the alley around the corner from the 227 drug house was the same alley as in the teaser.   All correct airtommy and now for the set of ginsu steak knifes what other episode used this location.  1 clue already given  second clue gina was working with stan in the bug van. 


     
     
    
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this street was also used in "Hell hath no Fury" where Gina and Stan were on stakeoutin the bugvan.

did I win the steak knifes, soflajeremy ?
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this street was also used in "Hell hath no Fury" where Gina and Stan were on stakeoutin the bugvan.

did I win the steak knifes, soflajeremy ?
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Originally posted by SOFLAJEREMY

You got it mang  when do you want to pick them up?


tomorrow midnight ocean ct just north of 1st street in sobe!
     
    
    
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he he I will be there looking for ya  who is going to mess with a seedy looking guy carrying a whole set of knives??
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Post Options Post Options   Quote airtommy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 June 2007 at 8:02am

I just studied the Gina/Stan scene in Hell Hath No Fury. It isn't Collins Ct, it's Ocean Ct. You can see Lummus Park when Beeks goes to his car. It looks to me like it was filmed around Ocean Ct & 12th St (same as his assassination).


    
    
    
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jfv93 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 December 2007 at 6:20pm
Which school was used for the school scenes in this episode? After the bust at the very begining, he mentions Booker T. which is a real school (Booker T. Washington) in Miami but which one is used for the exterior and interior (Teachers lounge and lockers) of Tamiami High?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote airtommy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 December 2007 at 7:28pm

I didn't see any visual clues as to which school it is.

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